300 Blackout vs. 300 Whisper (2024)

Just as the differences between .223 and 5.56 NATO are hotly debated and shrouded in misinformation, the same applies to the world of the .300 family. The new and popular 300 Blackout round was officially developed by the Advanced Armament at the request of the U.S. Military, but the story of the 300 BLK round starts well before this.

Industry legend J.D. Jones developed what most consider to be the “first” 300 BLK round, aptly named by Jones himself as .300 Whisper. He developed the cartridge with generally the same intentions as what the military wanted out of 300 Blackout: A big, heavy round that could go or slow and be suppressed or unsuppressed without requiring any field modifications to the rifle firing it.

So, what’s the difference?

For starters, 300 Whisper does not follow the Sporting Arms and Ammuniation Manufacturers’ Institute standards – that’s SAAMI specifications, for most gun folks. Instead, it adheres to the Commission Internationale Permanente pour l’Epreuve des Armes a’ Feu Portatives – holy !@#$. Let’s just call that the CIP standard.

Although the two cartridges are regulated by two differing ammunition authorities, worry about – SAAMI doesn’t allow duplicate cartridges to receive certification. In this case, this is not a reflection that “official” .300 BLK is truly much different from 300 Whisper.

There’s the short of it: There is no difference

What exactly happened was this: When the military asked Advanced Armament Corp. for a .30-caliber round that could be fired from the M4 platform, using the existing hardware (bolt, receivers, and magazines), they already knew the 300 Whisper would suffice.

The problem with that was that Remington would only accept SAAMI-certified ammunition in its contract rifles, and 300 Whisper wasn’t able to receive the certification. So, AAC and J.D. Jones took the same concept, sliced apart its specifications, and submitted a cloned round to SAAMI: The .300 AAC Blackout, or just 300 BLK.

Okay, There Are Tiny Physical Differences

Yes, just like .223 and 5.56, there are some basic, physical differences between 300 BLK and 300 Whisper. For you technical reloading folks out there, you’ll find some differences in the shoulder diameter (.3618” vs. .36”), the base-to-shoulder diameter (.869” vs. .8664”), the free bore length (.18” vs. .174”) and the base diameter (.3769” vs. .3760”).

The primary measures, however, are the same: Minimum chamber length, neck diameter, freebore diameter, pilot diameter, and neck length are identical.

Thankfully, the differences are miniscule enough that Hornady has their own 300 Whisper tested by SAAMI and found it was within specifications for 300 BLK chambers and barrels.

Most major manufacturers – including Hornady – are producing reloading dies that are marked “300 Whisper/Blackout”. Smith & Wesson even stamps the barrels of their M&P-15 Whispers with “300 Whisper/300 AAC Blackout”.

What’s Safe to Shoot

To keep things simple, think of it this way: You can shoot 300 Whisper in a 300 Blackout rifle. You should probably avoid shooting 300 Blackout in a 300 Whisper rifle because of the simple fact that the Whisper round is a wildcat cartridge. Little information is available to the public about tolerances and specifications, and so you might risk running higher chamber pressures that exceed what the subject rifle could handle.

Sound familiar? You can shoot .223 in a 5.56 rifle, but not the other way around. Now you know.

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300 Blackout vs. 300 Whisper (2024)

FAQs

Is the 300 Whisper the same as 300 Blackout? ›

300 BLK has a universal standard for powder loading and chamber pressures, and the Whisper does not. This distinction is why the Blackout round has become so popular and accepted, and you can find ammo on any gun store shelf nationwide.

What is the 300 Whisper good for? ›

It was developed as a multi-purpose cartridge, capable of utilizing relatively lightweight bullets at supersonic velocities as well as heavier bullets (200–250 grains) at subsonic velocities. The . 300 Whisper, displayed center.

Are 300 BLK and 300 Blackout the same? ›

The . 300 AAC Blackout (designated as the 300 BLK by the SAAMI and 300 AAC Blackout by the C.I.P.), also known as 7.62×35mm, is an intermediate cartridge developed in the United States by Advanced Armament Corporation (AAC) for use in the M4 carbine.

What is the quietest 300 Blackout? ›

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What is better than 300 Blackout? ›

When it comes to ballistics coefficient, the 308 Winchester is the clear winner when comparing to the 300 Blackout supersonic ammunition. With an average BC of around 0.45, the 308 Winchester is clearly the winner as 300 BLK ballistic coefficients typically below 0.4.

What makes 300 Blackout so special? ›

300 Blackout is every bit as capable as 5.56 in an anti-personnel role such as law enforcement or home defense, but it is capable in some other ways that 5.56 is not. The heavier, larger projectiles give the . 300 Blackout good kinetic energy and make it a better choice for use on medium-sized game.

Can you shoot 300 blackout out of a 300 Whisper? ›

According to Robert Silvers from AAC, “If you shoot . 300 BLK ammo in chambers that have a shorter or tighter throat, pressures will go up– perhaps above SAAMI maximums.” So to say it isn't possible would be a lie, but you need to be more cautious when chambering 300 BLK in a . 300 Whisper rifle.

What is the effective range of a 300 blackout? ›

Using M4 military standards, the max effective range of 300 AAC Blackout from a 16 inch barrel is 460 meters. From a 9 inch barrel (2050 fps): – 100 inches drop at 410 meters – 41 inches drift at 470 meters – 291 ft-lbs of energy at 625 meters, so 440 meter max effective range for a 9 inch.

Which is better, 350 legend or 300 blackout? ›

If you plan to go deer hunting in a state that requires the use of straight-walled cartridges, then the 350 Legend is clearly the obvious choice. However, if you are looking for a cartridge that easily integrates into the AR-15 carbine for use with or without a suppressor, then 300 Blackout ammo makes the most sense.

Is 6.5 Grendel better than 300 Blackout? ›

The 6.5 Grendel is certainly the more powerful cartridge compared to the . 300 Blackout, even though it has a lighter bullet. However, it also has a significantly more powerful recoil than the . 300 Blackout.

Can I shoot 556 in my 300 Blackout? ›

On The Range: 300 Blackout vs 5.56mm

An AR-15 chambered in 300 Blackout uses many of the same components as an AR-15 chambered in 5.56mm, with one big exception: The barrel. This means you can, in theory, chamber a round of 300 Blackout in an AR that's set up to shoot 5.56mm.

Does 300 Blackout kick hard? ›

300 Blackout has an average recoil impulse of around 6ft-lbs. This is about 33% more than a standard . 223 Remington in the same AR-15.

Is 300 Blackout better in a short or long barrel? ›

A 9 to 10-inch . 300 Blackout barrel keeps a gun portable and short enough to wield easily. It's also long enough to deliver sufficient bullet velocity to hit targets accurately at 100 yards. Another reason why 9 to 10 inches is the best overall .

Are 300 blackouts loud? ›

Subsonic 300 Blackout is one of the quietest suppression rounds, especially when you fire it using a closed breech firearm, such as a single shot rifle or a bolt action one. You won't hear any noise from the shot or during the ejection process that is typically present in a semi-automatic firearm.

Is .300 Whisper good for Tarkov? ›

The cartridge is ideal for close fire contacts of unarmored and/or lightly armored targets.

Is 300 Blackout ammo the same as 300 Win Mag? ›

They are very different cartridges that fill different roles. The . 300 Blackout is superior at doing what it was designed to do; provide reliable subsonic performance in a AR platform with minimal changes required to a traditionally-chambered 5.56x45 AR, and it shines when used with a shorter barrel.

What lower can I use for 300 Blackout? ›

Will a 300 blackout upper fit on a 5.56 lower? - Quora. Yes it will. All you need to do is pin the 300 BK upper to your lower and you are ready to go. You can use the same BCG, buffer and buffer spring.

What is the difference between 300 Blackout and 300 subsonic? ›

The . 300 AAC blackout has the advantage of having a more effective shape for delivering energy, expanding, and tumbling through vital organs, but it's main advantage while subsonic is it's quiet report, and the ability to make multiple hits on target very rapidly.

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